Posts by Anders Andersen

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compensation for the abused.

by zeb in

'jehovah's witness (1 per cent) did not attend but will be involved in round two of negotiations — one-on-one meetings with the minister's department.

on the abuse compensation scheme reported on the abc.

so they will go into the ministers office with their slickest new lawyers and hope to bullshit the minsters staff.

Anders Andersen

Here it is: http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-25/no-wonder-abuse-survivors-are-anxious-about-redress-scheme/8554628?pfmredir=sm

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compensation for the abused.

by zeb in

'jehovah's witness (1 per cent) did not attend but will be involved in round two of negotiations — one-on-one meetings with the minister's department.

on the abuse compensation scheme reported on the abc.

so they will go into the ministers office with their slickest new lawyers and hope to bullshit the minsters staff.

so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.

some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!

an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?

Anders Andersen

@Giles Gray:

Yes, I would have gladly attended. I'm not afraid of nor angry with any individual JW. Even if (and this is purely hypothetical) I would have come to understand that me attending would be a starting point to DF me, I would have gone. JW rules do not apply to me and I will not have my decisions influenced by their bullshit manipulation and abuse.

Other never-JW people will be at the party too. Apparently they are much better company than I am :-D

@tiki

The host explained he wants a happy party without any tensions. He simply doesn't want to deal with JW staring me down, complaining or leaving upset. That wouldn't be much of a party. So he chose to be egoistic (his words) and sacrifice me instead of multiple others. He just doesn't want to take a stand for the principles involved. He simply wants to throw a party. At least he's honest and decent about it. And after all, it's his party and he can invite and uninvite anyone he likes...

But it's sad that some/many JW can't even stand to be in the same room as someone who no longer believes as they do. Petty, narrow minded, and terrified wimps.

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Uninvited...again...

by Anders Andersen in

jw
friends

so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.

some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!

an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?

Anders Andersen

So a week or so ago we received an invitation for a JW friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.
It was addressed to 'the Andersen family' (and not just Mrs. Andersen & baby Andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.

However, I already prepared myself to be uninvited after all. Why?

Some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.
To my surprise, I was invited too! An elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.
Then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.

With that debacle in mind, I wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'Hey are you at home? We need to discuss you being at my anniversary party'. Well what do you know! Yesterday he told me I'm not invited anymore as the congregation was getting upset about me being there.

In a kind way (but in no uncertain terms) I explained to him what a disgusting practice it is to try and force people into a religion by using emotional blackmail. That's it's very hypocritical to send letters to Putin demanding freedom of religion, yet refusing to allow others their freedom. My wife heard it all. She wasn't (visibly) upset about what I said, but she didn't seem to agree much either. I'll try to talk to her about it today, see where that goes...

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Elder "D": Catholics No Longer Believe in a Trinity

by Saename in

so in this topic, i mentioned i had a conversation with an elder "d." this elder said that the catholic church admitted the trinity is unscriptural.

i'm pretty sure this is not true.

the doctrine of trinity is the most fundamental belief in the catholic church.

Anders Andersen

Btw ask the elder to show the bible verse where it says 'governing body exists and is apppointed by Jehovah'.

Can't be found anywhere either.

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Elder "D": Catholics No Longer Believe in a Trinity

by Saename in

so in this topic, i mentioned i had a conversation with an elder "d." this elder said that the catholic church admitted the trinity is unscriptural.

i'm pretty sure this is not true.

the doctrine of trinity is the most fundamental belief in the catholic church.

Anders Andersen

The elder probably used his kindergarten reading and comprehension skills on something like this: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102005282?q=trinity+catholic+encyclopedia&p=par#h=22

Then superimposed his own magic thinking.

The Trinity is not a teaching of Jesus or of the early Christians. As noted previously, it is “a teaching of the church.” In its 1999 issue on the Trinity, The Living Pulpit observed: “Sometimes, it seems that everyone assumes that the doctrine of the trinity is standard Christian theological fare,” but it added that it is not “a biblical idea.”

The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967) discusses the Trinity at length and admits: “The Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. . . . The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”

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Lot's Wife - Connect the dots - JW.org

by Funchback in

yay!

now kids can help draw lot's wife getting destroyed.. .

Anders Andersen

Suppose a loved one of yours was brutally murdered and the weapon was submitted to the court as evidence. Would you try to gain possession of the murder weapon, take photographs of it, and print many copies for distribution? Would you produce replicas of the weapon in various sizes? Would you then fashion some of them into jewelry? Or would you have these reproductions commercially manufactured and sold to friends and relatives to be venerated? Likely you would be repulsed at the idea! Yet, these very things have been done with the cross!
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102006132?q=weapon+murder%2A&p=par#h=11
But children drawing a woman who is being murdered is so much better!

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Lot's Wife - Connect the dots - JW.org

by Funchback in

yay!

now kids can help draw lot's wife getting destroyed.. .

Anders Andersen

WHAT THE FUCK!

I'm seriously enraged right now!

A woman is executed in a horrible way for a petty offense. Her husband and daughters are there to witness her scream and die.

And your kids can paint happy colours on her dying face!

These morons should never ever open their mouth about morals to me or I'll rip them in half. Asshats.

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You're not going to believe what I'm about to tell you....

by kpop in

jw
friends

nicely sums up most of the population.... https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe.

Anders Andersen

I shared this on FB. No reaction from any of the multitude of JW I have as 'friends'. A 'worldly- guy restated it though.

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Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017

by Edison Trent in

short info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.

festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.

all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..

Anders Andersen

Soooooooo.......what happened to Jehovah ordering his angels to protect the dubs, especially at large, holy meetings?